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	<title>Comments on: Alfred Deakin Innovation Lectures: The Creative Commons</title>
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		<title>By: j.</title>
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		<dc:creator>j.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 May 2005 12:57:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*bows to learned intellectual prop lawyers*

you guys have just convinced me to take IP as a module now. sounds interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*bows to learned intellectual prop lawyers*</p>
<p>you guys have just convinced me to take IP as a module now. sounds interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: Zen&#124;th</title>
		<link>http://shianux.jiyuuu.org/2005/05/08/alfred_deakin_innovation_lectures_the_creative_commons/#comment-2781</link>
		<dc:creator>Zen&#124;th</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 May 2005 05:57:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gundam Seen and Destiny are 2 great animes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gundam Seen and Destiny are 2 great animes.</p>
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		<title>By: ivan</title>
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		<dc:creator>ivan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 May 2005 23:19:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ACS: i totally agree! i'm just adding a what if, i don't have much faith in proper legislative reforms, as such i'm inclined to allow a margin of stupidity where it actually is provided for under statute.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ACS: i totally agree! i&#8217;m just adding a what if, i don&#8217;t have much faith in proper legislative reforms, as such i&#8217;m inclined to allow a margin of stupidity where it actually is provided for under statute.</p>
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		<title>By: ACS</title>
		<link>http://shianux.jiyuuu.org/2005/05/08/alfred_deakin_innovation_lectures_the_creative_commons/#comment-2779</link>
		<dc:creator>ACS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 May 2005 17:27:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ivan:

There is no real reason that CC should go under statute - it works on the basis of the existing law. Anyway, it is unlikely that CC would be enshrined because it is merely an example of the infinite possibilities (and I mean infinite) of licencing available to every copyright owner. 

I could put in a bit that says 

"(1)You may only reproduce this work if you deliver a goat to the foot of Mount Olympus"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ivan:</p>
<p>There is no real reason that CC should go under statute - it works on the basis of the existing law. Anyway, it is unlikely that CC would be enshrined because it is merely an example of the infinite possibilities (and I mean infinite) of licencing available to every copyright owner. </p>
<p>I could put in a bit that says </p>
<p>&#8220;(1)You may only reproduce this work if you deliver a goat to the foot of Mount Olympus&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Ray</title>
		<link>http://shianux.jiyuuu.org/2005/05/08/alfred_deakin_innovation_lectures_the_creative_commons/#comment-2776</link>
		<dc:creator>Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 May 2005 04:56:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ACS:

You were supposed to &lt;em&gt;laugh&lt;/em&gt; =P.

Thanks though, that cleared a few errant assumptions I'd made.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ACS:</p>
<p>You were supposed to <em>laugh</em> =P.</p>
<p>Thanks though, that cleared a few errant assumptions I&#8217;d made.</p>
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		<title>By: ivan</title>
		<link>http://shianux.jiyuuu.org/2005/05/08/alfred_deakin_innovation_lectures_the_creative_commons/#comment-2775</link>
		<dc:creator>ivan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 May 2005 03:28:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ACS:

I might add a disclaimer, if CC come under statutory footing (ie. enshrined in statute), it might and can be construed as a baby step towards a &lt;em&gt;sui generis&lt;/em&gt; form of protection.


Erm abortion debate? how was it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ACS:</p>
<p>I might add a disclaimer, if CC come under statutory footing (ie. enshrined in statute), it might and can be construed as a baby step towards a <em>sui generis</em> form of protection.</p>
<p>Erm abortion debate? how was it?</p>
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		<title>By: ACS</title>
		<link>http://shianux.jiyuuu.org/2005/05/08/alfred_deakin_innovation_lectures_the_creative_commons/#comment-2769</link>
		<dc:creator>ACS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2005 23:55:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TO Ray 

Sorry I am going to have to correct one thing. 

The CC is vastly different from sui generis copyright reform. 

The CC licence is in essence and effect a legal permission to infringe certain rights. Because of the operation of the Copyright Act this permission excludes any right to damages or relief so long as the conduct falls within the parameters of the licence. 

THe actual terms of the copyright act mean that excercising rights in the copyright of another person with permission does not constitute an infringement. 

Hence CC, like the open source licence (Which is probably the conceptual basis of CC) is legal, valid and most importantly - does not require reform of the copyright Act - in fact it relies on the Act.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TO Ray </p>
<p>Sorry I am going to have to correct one thing. </p>
<p>The CC is vastly different from sui generis copyright reform. </p>
<p>The CC licence is in essence and effect a legal permission to infringe certain rights. Because of the operation of the Copyright Act this permission excludes any right to damages or relief so long as the conduct falls within the parameters of the licence. </p>
<p>THe actual terms of the copyright act mean that excercising rights in the copyright of another person with permission does not constitute an infringement. </p>
<p>Hence CC, like the open source licence (Which is probably the conceptual basis of CC) is legal, valid and most importantly - does not require reform of the copyright Act - in fact it relies on the Act.</p>
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		<title>By: adina</title>
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		<dc:creator>adina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 May 2005 05:49:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey

let me know about these things next time. Although given that the property assignment was due the next day i might not have gone for this one.

there's an abortion debate on at 6:30pm today if you're interested.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey</p>
<p>let me know about these things next time. Although given that the property assignment was due the next day i might not have gone for this one.</p>
<p>there&#8217;s an abortion debate on at 6:30pm today if you&#8217;re interested.</p>
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		<title>By: Ray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 May 2005 01:09:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Meh?

http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/05/05/09/0427220.shtml?tid=188

and

http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/05/05/10/205226.shtml?tid=123&#38;tid=188&#38;tid=4</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meh?</p>
<p><a href="http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/05/05/09/0427220.shtml?tid=188" rel="nofollow">http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/05/05/09/0427220.shtml?tid=188</a></p>
<p>and</p>
<p><a href="http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/05/05/10/205226.shtml?tid=123&amp;tid=188&amp;tid=4" rel="nofollow">http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/05/05/10/205226.shtml?tid=123&amp;tid=188&amp;tid=4</a></p>
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		<title>By: ivan</title>
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		<dc:creator>ivan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 May 2005 18:45:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://ivan.ivanandxia.com/history/2005-05-09/is-copy-right/

It's up minus the footnotes and biblio... too lazy to edit it before posting.

comments are more than welcome, i'd be doing a dissertation on it next year... so all feedback will be greatly appreciated.

Unfortunately i might not be able to respond as i'm 1 wk away from my exams However you are more than welcome to start a war/debate/discussion there.</description>
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<p>It&#8217;s up minus the footnotes and biblio&#8230; too lazy to edit it before posting.</p>
<p>comments are more than welcome, i&#8217;d be doing a dissertation on it next year&#8230; so all feedback will be greatly appreciated.</p>
<p>Unfortunately i might not be able to respond as i&#8217;m 1 wk away from my exams However you are more than welcome to start a war/debate/discussion there.</p>
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