Comments on: Religious fundamentalism under a moral microscope http://shianux.jiyuuu.org/2006/05/22/religious-fundamentalism-under-a-moral-microscope/ The truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. Sat, 22 Nov 2008 09:47:59 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Alvin http://shianux.jiyuuu.org/2006/05/22/religious-fundamentalism-under-a-moral-microscope/#comment-5552 Alvin Thu, 25 May 2006 12:01:18 +0000 http://shianux.jiyuuu.org/2006/05/22/209/religious-fundamentalism-under-a-moral-microscope/#comment-5552 I actually felt like writing back to the ST regarding this letter, but I guess that I should use that time more wisely... Erm, the author in that article did ask this qn: "But what if those stem cells are in the brain or gonads?" Well, to set the record straight, YES there is stem cells up in the brain and the gonads! There are researchers around the world that are looking into treating patients with their own stem cells, which in this case, doesn't give the ethicsists (did I spell it right?) nothing much to bitch about, and also, it's much safer (Embryonic stem cells are capable of forming Cancer cells). I actually felt like writing back to the ST regarding this letter, but I guess that I should use that time more wisely…

Erm, the author in that article did ask this qn: “But what if those stem cells are in the brain or gonads?”

Well, to set the record straight, YES there is stem cells up in the brain and the gonads! There are researchers around the world that are looking into treating patients with their own stem cells, which in this case, doesn’t give the ethicsists (did I spell it right?) nothing much to bitch about, and also, it’s much safer (Embryonic stem cells are capable of forming Cancer cells).

]]> By: budak http://shianux.jiyuuu.org/2006/05/22/religious-fundamentalism-under-a-moral-microscope/#comment-5494 budak Tue, 23 May 2006 01:58:24 +0000 http://shianux.jiyuuu.org/2006/05/22/209/religious-fundamentalism-under-a-moral-microscope/#comment-5494 It's funny how a similar appeal to protecting the 'social order' is used in both the letter as well as the recent call to ban "The Da Vinci Code" movie. Does social order amount to the sensitivities of mere churchgoers? It’s funny how a similar appeal to protecting the ’social order’ is used in both the letter as well as the recent call to ban “The Da Vinci Code” movie. Does social order amount to the sensitivities of mere churchgoers?

]]> By: ivan http://shianux.jiyuuu.org/2006/05/22/religious-fundamentalism-under-a-moral-microscope/#comment-5486 ivan Mon, 22 May 2006 17:22:37 +0000 http://shianux.jiyuuu.org/2006/05/22/209/religious-fundamentalism-under-a-moral-microscope/#comment-5486 mate sorry to sound abrupt and rude. But if theology sets off warning bells, it just means you've been reading/mixing around with only a certain kind of theologians. Systematic theology is just a term, and a structure by which theology is explored. It can be both liberal and conservative as to it's outcome. No clues as to which branch the current pope subscribes to, but there are a good many who oppose his views. Jesuits are a good start for liberal views. I must say Roland comes across being quite open. Dare i say Liberal in fact. Whilst he puts across his views on the moral dilemmas that biotech introduces into the realm of science, he at no points asserts that all subscribe to his view. I venture to say by his letter, he is merely asking of us to consider if this moral stand point is one we choose to adopt, just as you posit yours. At no point has he called for legislation, nor banning. It is perfectly possible to envisage his letter calling for scientists to re-evaluate their ethical and moral compasses, should they find it unethical perhaps they should stop. If they find it ethical, Roland at doesn't impose his value judgement and insist that they should stop. A liberal government doesn't restrict opinions, it only restricts the imposition of opinions on others. this this case, whilst arguably Roland is hoping to sway some 'votes', he doesn't force anyone to adopt his view pt. Perhaps it's cleverly disguised, even then there's hardly value in reading between his lines and interpreting it as him imposing values upon others. While you've fisked his arguments to shreds, you hardly do him justice by taking his overall message to be one of imposition of norms, and subjugation of self to the common. A message to say "please rethink" is not a message to say "you must stop". The choice remains with you still. for laughs. If chimps and early humans interbred, i sure know where to find their offsprings... it's somewhere north of england, south of scotland lol. mate sorry to sound abrupt and rude. But if theology sets off warning bells, it just means you’ve been reading/mixing around with only a certain kind of theologians. Systematic theology is just a term, and a structure by which theology is explored. It can be both liberal and conservative as to it’s outcome. No clues as to which branch the current pope subscribes to, but there are a good many who oppose his views.

Jesuits are a good start for liberal views.

I must say Roland comes across being quite open. Dare i say Liberal in fact. Whilst he puts across his views on the moral dilemmas that biotech introduces into the realm of science, he at no points asserts that all subscribe to his view. I venture to say by his letter, he is merely asking of us to consider if this moral stand point is one we choose to adopt, just as you posit yours. At no point has he called for legislation, nor banning. It is perfectly possible to envisage his letter calling for scientists to re-evaluate their ethical and moral compasses, should they find it unethical perhaps they should stop. If they find it ethical, Roland at doesn’t impose his value judgement and insist that they should stop.

A liberal government doesn’t restrict opinions, it only restricts the imposition of opinions on others. this this case, whilst arguably Roland is hoping to sway some ‘votes’, he doesn’t force anyone to adopt his view pt. Perhaps it’s cleverly disguised, even then there’s hardly value in reading between his lines and interpreting it as him imposing values upon others.

While you’ve fisked his arguments to shreds, you hardly do him justice by taking his overall message to be one of imposition of norms, and subjugation of self to the common.

A message to say “please rethink” is not a message to say “you must stop”. The choice remains with you still.

for laughs.
If chimps and early humans interbred, i sure know where to find their offsprings… it’s somewhere north of england, south of scotland lol.

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