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		<title>By: Comment on Its time to leave by Paul Ananth</title>
		<link>http://shianux.jiyuuu.org/2007/10/24/its-time-to-leave/#comment-9543</link>
		<dc:creator>Comment on Its time to leave by Paul Ananth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 22:30:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]   Comment on Its time to leave by Paul Ananth  I do not think leaving is the right solution. There are many people who disagreed with the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: fief</title>
		<link>http://shianux.jiyuuu.org/2007/10/24/its-time-to-leave/#comment-9352</link>
		<dc:creator>fief</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 05:33:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that its more about a highly vocal minority who’s driving the agenda. Not just in this 377A case, but nearly everything else. Tang Liang Hong made a comment back in the 90s that the pap govt have many Christian types.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that its more about a highly vocal minority who’s driving the agenda. Not just in this 377A case, but nearly everything else. Tang Liang Hong made a comment back in the 90s that the pap govt have many Christian types.</p>
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		<title>By: loupgarou</title>
		<link>http://shianux.jiyuuu.org/2007/10/24/its-time-to-leave/#comment-9351</link>
		<dc:creator>loupgarou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 04:38:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>because section 377a continues to exist, its used as a convenient excuse from everything from a picnic, to a run, television programming , to form a society, to counter xtian taleban dogma in school in education programs run by subcontractors who attempt to push homosexuality as a sin (in a secular education system where we have people of all and no faiths), and etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>because section 377a continues to exist, its used as a convenient excuse from everything from a picnic, to a run, television programming , to form a society, to counter xtian taleban dogma in school in education programs run by subcontractors who attempt to push homosexuality as a sin (in a secular education system where we have people of all and no faiths), and etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Ananth</title>
		<link>http://shianux.jiyuuu.org/2007/10/24/its-time-to-leave/#comment-9335</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Ananth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 13:31:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do not think leaving is the right solution. There are many people who disagreed with the decision including Christians including myself.

When Paul Robeson was asked why he did not leave America after his dissident views were questioned, he replied, "Because my father was a slave, and my people died to build this country, and I am going to stay here and have a part of it, just like you. And no fascist minded people will drive me from it. Is that clear?"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not think leaving is the right solution. There are many people who disagreed with the decision including Christians including myself.</p>
<p>When Paul Robeson was asked why he did not leave America after his dissident views were questioned, he replied, &#8220;Because my father was a slave, and my people died to build this country, and I am going to stay here and have a part of it, just like you. And no fascist minded people will drive me from it. Is that clear?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: aygee</title>
		<link>http://shianux.jiyuuu.org/2007/10/24/its-time-to-leave/#comment-9333</link>
		<dc:creator>aygee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 05:53:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I've seen in several blogs, we really need to break down and find out what this "majority" that the Govt proclaims is driving the decision.

I would think its more about a highly vocal minority who's driving the agenda. Not just in this 377A case, but nearly everything else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I&#8217;ve seen in several blogs, we really need to break down and find out what this &#8220;majority&#8221; that the Govt proclaims is driving the decision.</p>
<p>I would think its more about a highly vocal minority who&#8217;s driving the agenda. Not just in this 377A case, but nearly everything else.</p>
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		<title>By: Han</title>
		<link>http://shianux.jiyuuu.org/2007/10/24/its-time-to-leave/#comment-9332</link>
		<dc:creator>Han</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 03:34:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Khirsah:

I don't have a people with the ruling party. I've always supported them for being pragmatic and logical.

What I oppose is religious fundamentalism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Khirsah:</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have a people with the ruling party. I&#8217;ve always supported them for being pragmatic and logical.</p>
<p>What I oppose is religious fundamentalism.</p>
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		<title>By: khirsah</title>
		<link>http://shianux.jiyuuu.org/2007/10/24/its-time-to-leave/#comment-9331</link>
		<dc:creator>khirsah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 03:17:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You don't have to leave Singapore. In fact, you should not.  The ruling party will not sit there forever unless all opposition left.

We retreat, we wait... for the opportunity to rise again.  Once we leave, we can never come back because we will always be seen as the prodigal son when we do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You don&#8217;t have to leave Singapore. In fact, you should not.  The ruling party will not sit there forever unless all opposition left.</p>
<p>We retreat, we wait&#8230; for the opportunity to rise again.  Once we leave, we can never come back because we will always be seen as the prodigal son when we do.</p>
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		<title>By: at82</title>
		<link>http://shianux.jiyuuu.org/2007/10/24/its-time-to-leave/#comment-9328</link>
		<dc:creator>at82</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 20:36:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To be frank, I am scared by the argument these ppl put forward.

As far as I know S'pore is a secular country and the majority of S'poreans are Buddhists.

I do not know where these Christian fundamentalists get the idea that S'pore should rule according to the bible.

S'poreans should really start thinking if they wanted their government to be taken over by these people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be frank, I am scared by the argument these ppl put forward.</p>
<p>As far as I know S&#8217;pore is a secular country and the majority of S&#8217;poreans are Buddhists.</p>
<p>I do not know where these Christian fundamentalists get the idea that S&#8217;pore should rule according to the bible.</p>
<p>S&#8217;poreans should really start thinking if they wanted their government to be taken over by these people.</p>
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		<title>By: aygee</title>
		<link>http://shianux.jiyuuu.org/2007/10/24/its-time-to-leave/#comment-9327</link>
		<dc:creator>aygee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 14:43:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like to correct one point about this blog. the decision not to repeal 337A is made by the SINGAPORE GOVT, not by all Singaporeans. 

I disagree the point about "the majority" making the choice for us. When the casino issue came up, didnt the "majority" said no, but we still went ahead? 

I think its unfair for you to imply that "all Singaporeans are terminally incapable of logical thought", you will "only come to grief" if you stayed...and more and more rights taken away from you.

I'm surprised that everyone who have commented on this blog seem to miss this point - so all of you are telling you accept that the whole lot of us are really incapable of logical thought?

Though i think 377A is a bigoted law, tell me - how many people have gone to jail for their gayness in recent times? Did the police form an anti-gay task force, stake out gay clubs and arrest people?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like to correct one point about this blog. the decision not to repeal 337A is made by the SINGAPORE GOVT, not by all Singaporeans. </p>
<p>I disagree the point about &#8220;the majority&#8221; making the choice for us. When the casino issue came up, didnt the &#8220;majority&#8221; said no, but we still went ahead? </p>
<p>I think its unfair for you to imply that &#8220;all Singaporeans are terminally incapable of logical thought&#8221;, you will &#8220;only come to grief&#8221; if you stayed&#8230;and more and more rights taken away from you.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m surprised that everyone who have commented on this blog seem to miss this point - so all of you are telling you accept that the whole lot of us are really incapable of logical thought?</p>
<p>Though i think 377A is a bigoted law, tell me - how many people have gone to jail for their gayness in recent times? Did the police form an anti-gay task force, stake out gay clubs and arrest people?</p>
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		<title>By: Me</title>
		<link>http://shianux.jiyuuu.org/2007/10/24/its-time-to-leave/#comment-9325</link>
		<dc:creator>Me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 07:23:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't really agree that its time to leave Singapore. I'm gay and while its irritating to listen to the rubbish spouted by the religious fundamentalists, Singapore is still a pretty pleasant and cheap place to live in - low taxes, things work etc. You can live a pretty good life in Singapore when you just don't let things bother you and filter out the less pleasant bits of life in Singapore (e.g. the Government nonsense, Government scamming more money from you, the mad religious types etc). 

However, don't expect me to be there when things turn bad. We're treated like hotel guests in a hotel rather than shareholders of the hotel, and so when the hotel's standards start to drop or if a newer hotel comes up, we'll obviously just leave. I just don't see a newer, better value-for-money hotel yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t really agree that its time to leave Singapore. I&#8217;m gay and while its irritating to listen to the rubbish spouted by the religious fundamentalists, Singapore is still a pretty pleasant and cheap place to live in - low taxes, things work etc. You can live a pretty good life in Singapore when you just don&#8217;t let things bother you and filter out the less pleasant bits of life in Singapore (e.g. the Government nonsense, Government scamming more money from you, the mad religious types etc). </p>
<p>However, don&#8217;t expect me to be there when things turn bad. We&#8217;re treated like hotel guests in a hotel rather than shareholders of the hotel, and so when the hotel&#8217;s standards start to drop or if a newer hotel comes up, we&#8217;ll obviously just leave. I just don&#8217;t see a newer, better value-for-money hotel yet.</p>
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